stels 500gt Поговорим о надежности движка

У кого какие проблемы возникали с движком?

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Кто нибудь так делал? Не близко к шестеренкам будет? Воздух не будет глотать? На поларфоксе вроде другие шестерни, подшипник так точно другой стоит с фланцем

Аватар пользователя Александр 88

Спасибо за фото.Но интересует вопрос,как и pasha4914. Кто пользует уже это на gt и kazuma? Есть что то положительное?

RE:Есть что то положительное?

Положительное то,что Вы в Сибири не будете ночевать с квадром в тайге
Кстати, Паша Шорин...Привет...как там кольца и цилиндр поживают???

Господа, поднимите Темы... там подробненько расписаны преимущества длинной трубки
Ну, если не найдёте Smile откройте фотку Алика (выше на два поста висит) и поверните планшет или монитор на - минус 45градусов (как будто вы едете в гору) - и Всем сразу станет всё понятно Laughing out loud

Аватар пользователя Александр 88

На воде с катером ночевал уже разок,ещё с квадром в лесу не хватало бы=)Можно наверное самому заколхозить (наростить)трубку?Без покупки новой.

Конечно можно, и даже нужно в целях экономии денег....

А ты попробуй монитор в другую сторону наклони, как будто с горы едешь), да и еще шестерни конические рядом вихрь создают)

Так ты с горы летишь убиться с оборотами под 6000? Laughing out loud с вихрями и со свистом? Laughing out loud
Когда мы едем в гору с нагрузкой нехилой или в затяжном подъёме и т.п. Итак возникает риск масляного голодания в том числе и по вышеуказанной причине...а уж с горы никто не летает и слона с горы не тащит волоком...так что там как риск минимален убить поршневую...

Полностью поддерживаю! С горы на холостых неспеша катишься - в гору максимальная нагрузка....

Разные горы бывают, иногда заедешь, а съехать труднее, стоишь мордой к низу, хотя на счет оборотов ты правв, они холостые)

Аватар пользователя Александр 88

Алик,канал сальника рассверлил,сверло на 2.8 брал,на 3.5 большим показалось.У маслоприемника трубку хочу нарастить путём вваривания куска трубки схожей по диаметру(думаю обыкновенная сварка прокатит).Ты также делал или покупал длинный?

Я канал рассверлил, а маслоприёмник ещё старый - идею длинного предложили недавно и только ради этого я половинить движок не собираюсь...

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Понятно,спасибо.

Аватар пользователя Александр 88

Уговорили:yes3:Буду шаманить:smile3:

Аватар пользователя Александр 88

Может ещё кто что подскажет что можно усовершенствовать пока есть свободное время и квадрат разобран.

Господа, Alika картинку берём...убираем крестик красный и ваяем как на картинке, т.е. делаем доп.всос насоса и расслабляемся
А там хоть с горы, хоть в гору - по барабану

Не прокатит - на подьеме соснет воздуха через короткий и толку не будет. Маслоприёмник должен быть один и желательно длинный.

Так как мы ездим - он по-любому раз от раза подсасывает воздух Laughing out loud

Ребят а как определить клапана звенят, или палец в поршне ?!

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Клапана вроде цокают, а шатун дает звон
Но логичнее выставить зазор клапанов и думать дальше...

Из кпп при разборе вылител шарик с пружинкой, подскажите где это стоит???

Аватар пользователя Demkasmart

Парни, посмотрел тут устройство 600gt! Так там и движек половинить не надо, чтоб до конических шестерней добраться! Грамотнее сделано: вот кому интересно
http://cdelau-vce.ru/rem/7515/index.html?page=6

Ага, очень грамотно - этот же узел конических шестерён рвёт пополам картер движка Laughing out loud
Куча случаев - своими глазами видел результат...

Аватар пользователя Demkasmart

Во-во! Короче позвонил мне мужичек, просит отремонтировать ему 600 gt. Ну и перечисляет все те же симптомы, что и в нашем случае! Мы говорит на нем березы таскали Wink Ну я, т.к. Квадр его не видел предположительно так и сказал, что это шестерни! И как бы картер не разбило! Хочу подзаработать денег- перебрать его двигатель! Но если наш квадр изучил вдоль и поперек, то с 600 не связывался. Alik, скажи, если уже видел и слышал об этом! Браться ли? Какие там может подводные камни? Двигатель смотрю посложнее чем у нас, но как я понимаю из мануала, разбирать и снимать можно только правую часть картера, левую можно не трогать(С ГРМ и тд)?

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Тут про 600 просто ничего да и нигде особо не найду

Запчастей на Динлики нет. Совсем нет, нигде!
Ремонт возможен, но только ремонт и если картер порвало - то только сварка....

Аватар пользователя Demkasmart

Какой "хороший" квадр!
Так что делать??? А если у него шестерни слизало? Где их брать?
Хотя вот! Нашел, и сегодня кстати у них был, покупал шкив ручного стартера- нигде не нашел, а у них есть 1300р. : http://www.atv-stels.ru/sp/57/13808/31366/31795/24397/p9/
( это Балашиха)

И кстати- увидел по запчастям веселую тему! Поршень на Динлик (600) - его диаметр 92 мм!!!!!! Это как у нас!!!! А кубатура у него почемуто больше- 575 вроде в чистоте!!! Камера сгорания чтоли больше.... И стоит в комплекте с кольцами 9 рубасов!!!!! Жесть! Субаровский- родной- японский дешевле вышел.... Горраздо...

На сайте кстати запчасти могут быть, а в наличии нет.... Sad

У динлика больше ход поршня (у нас короткоходный, как на спортах), поэтому и кубатура у нас меньше .

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Аааааа! Вкурил =) спасибо!

Аватар пользователя Demkasmart

Ой блиииин... Там еще и гидрокомпенсаторы на клапана, и шайбы регулировочные.... Смотрю на общее устройство движка и начинаю уважать 500gt наш..... У нас все намного проще! Все по простецки....

Всем привет! Ни у кого не было проблемы, что фланец при замене на стальной не садится до конца при установке в картер двигателя?

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Наконец то собрал своего зверька и опробывал,всё вроде ок. Хочу сказать всем огромное спасибо за информацию которая здесь описана,особое спасибо создателю темы и alikу за совет по апгрейду:friends:

Подскажите размеры втулки, а то картинку не открывает.

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Подскажите пожалуйста, нужно все таки снимать вариатор или нет, при замене подшипника и фланца?

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смотря какого, ведомый снимать полюбому, ведущий можно не снимать

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Можно и так извернуться. http://www.dedminka.ru/faq-stels-500k/razbor-dvigatelya-500k-500gt

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Да спасибо. Уже сняли вариатор посредством специального сьемника. Пробег ~2 тысяч. 2010 года.
Появился такой же стук:

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В общем разобрали двигатель. Все в идеале. Пластина стоит Родная алюминия. Что сразу поменять раз уж разобрали? Думаю пластину железо поставить ну и подшипник махнуть? Ну и все прокладки и обратно сбор. Что думаете?

Подскажите пожалуйста вмт поршня я нашёл а вот звезда грм точками куда должна смотреть вверх на клапана или вниз на маховик?

Ох спасибо большое! Буду пробовать.

Каким-то волшебным образом клапан впускной погибло)). Может кто-то подскажет почему? Цепь растянулась или ещё что.

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