Люфт в ступице

Итак, вопросик
500GT (не мой)
Имеется люфт в то ли в кулаке, то ли ещё где понять не можем
Объясняю топорно...
1 левая сторона
2 кулак нормальный, без изъянов внутри
3 подшипники влазят только под маслице, т.е. вплотную под молоточек
4 подшипники ставили и Самарские и ещё какие то крутые, сейчас не скажу...человечек пока недоступен
5 подшипник весь перебрали/всю смазку заменили
6 гайку ставили, по-моему от Оки, не помню, но была с юбкой
Так вот:
Качаешь колесо по вертикали
Оно со шрусом=внешней гранатой качается...и качается ооооочень прилично!
В чём собака порыться может?

P.S. человек хочет кулак менять, но я насколько его видел он "идеальный"

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Кстати, вот когда качаешь...
Ощющение, что у тебя пора менять подшипники ступицы
Но я когда это испытывал, после замены всё проходило...
А здесь после установки новых ничего не меняется кардиально....
У него на гранате тоже никаких изъянов...
Но визуально видно, что колесо и граната качается в унисон, даже когда поменяли два раза подшипники ( наши на ещё какие то покруче)
Просто интересно - это что?
Я подсказать не могу, может форум накиент мыслишек?

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У меня так было, подшипник заходил тоже молоточком, а обратно переворачиваешь, и он вываливался. Вот такая петрушка.
По идее, должен был быть у меня люфт, я просто не качал.

На сколько я понял - наружняя обойма подшипника сидит в кулаке плотно. А как сидит внутреняя обойма кто нибудь проверял? Может там всё и дело? Взять подшипник и надев на ось и покачать за корпус...

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Примерно такая же хреновина была у знакомого когда нижнюю шаровую сожрало (по непонятной причине) За верх колеса качаешь , боле -менее , а когда за низ то сильно ощутимо.
Вот на задних колёсах бывает такое когда между подшипниками забудешь поставить упорную втулку .

Говорю авторитетно, насколько имею право
1 втулку пихали, а как без неё
2 там 2 подшипника
3 плюс втулка...но хер с ней
4 вот и не понятно, какого "болта"... впендюриваем Два подшипника новых, "седло" в кулаке как зеркало, на гранате никаких "выбоин"... затягиваем

Здравствуй Новый Год Laughing out loud
Дергаем колесо, а оно , сука, люфтит в кулаке вместе с гранатой
Вот чел по бесовским сетям хотел полезть потом, а я тут обозначил...не дай Бог тоже у кого проявиться...

P.S. Джексон... какая бы то ни была хрень с шаровыми, но тааааак как я видел с новыми подшипниками колесо с гранатой там хреначить точно не должно...

Ещё раз повторю - надо проверить как сидит внутренняя обойма. Один подшипник надел на ось примерно в районе первого подшипника и пошатал, потом сдвинул в район второго и так же проверил...
Может там не кулак, а гранату с осью надо менять!

З.Ы. Был случай в моей практике - искали у электродвигателя люфт подшипников на статоре, а оказалось ось ротора сожрало и она болталась во внутренней обойме подшипника...

На сайлентблоках качается наверное...

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Может правда говорит Альберт , проверить саму гранату ? У меня был случай когда одни знакомые внедрили (спиз...ные)шрусы на Ниву и собирали с помощью литра (а может и больше) ну и пи..дец ступице , подшипникам . У чужих шрусов оказался диаметр меньше на 1мм.

Ладно, на сл.неделе покачаем....подъеду к бедолаге ,самому интересно
По поводу сайлентов: нет, кулак стоит ровно...а колесо с гранатой ёрзает
Подшипники и наши и заграниШние дрочили - люфтов нет ( хотя иногда попадается всякая хрень )
Ну, да ладно... я за опятами

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Дружище , Ты давай фото-видео фиксацию этой чертовщины

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Может быть все таки люфт в подшипниках? Дело в том что подшипники стоят близко друг у другу. Фактически между центрами подшипников расстояние около 3см. А колесо в диаметре 70см. Рычаг получается большой. Даже минимальный люфт в пару микрон в подшипнике, даст уже несколько миллиметров люфта на колесе. Подшипники, не зависимо от того заграничные они или наши, делятся на классы точности.
Кстати если гайка ступичная затянута как положено, то люфт вала во внутренних обоймах можно исключить. Т.к внутренние обоймы, дистанционная шайба, вал и ступица при хорошей затяжке гайки как бы превращаются в один элемент.
Лично у меня стоят минские подшипники и они немножечко люфтят прямо сновья.

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Было такое на Панде .Выработка на самом валу ШРУСа,то есть вал качается внутри внутренней обоймы,тоже сначала три раза подшипники менял. Исправили следующим образом .Мазнули сваркой электродом по валу,потом доточили напильником, стоит мертво.

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И еще проверь втулки ступицы.
Так то насамом деле видео как люфтит колесо все бы прояснило.

Ребята, Спасибо
Все мнения передал и осознал для себя
На следующей недельке прояснится вопросик...видос по возможности выложим

А утром я два кофра опятами забил
Вот моим девочкам повезло с ними колупаться

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ЭЭЭЭ Суанин мне то маленько оставь опёнков

Да я бы ещё пару-тройку раз загрузился...
Дам жалко Laughing out loud
Уже вроде обед, а ещё и половину не обработали Smile
Езжай... навалом ( пока молоденькие), только нарваться надо на местечко
Посылку получил?

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Сегодня хочу забрать , до этого времени не было.

Ты опят то набрал?
А то я выдвинусь завтра/послезавтра в район Октябрявки/Глухово... если шрусы не растеряю...
Всё заберу

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